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John K I just watched the Animal Planet series "The Cove". I am interested in learning more about Dolphin Hunting... do you offer a charter service to go fishing with your group of fishermen for a fee? Please reply, best regards, John K 08/28/2010 Patricia Dela Pena If it is ok for japanese to terrorize an intelligent animal, coral them and slaughter them for food then I truly have no problem with cannibals hunting humans for food as well.Japanese have been eating marine mammals for years and it is a tradition, well so has it been a tradition for cannibals around the world who have been eating humans for many years too. I would love to let cannibals hunt for their food in Japan. 08/28/2010 Patricia Dela Pena Too late Japanese have already done the cannibal thing...
in Chichijima in February 1945, when Japanese soldiers killed and consumed five American airmen. This case was investigated in 1947 in a war crimes trial, and of 30 Japanese soldiers prosecuted, five (Maj. Matoba, Gen. Tachibana, Adm. Mori, Capt. Yoshii, and Dr. Teraki) were found guilty and hanged.[96] In his book Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, James Bradley details several instances of cannibalism of World War II Allied prisoners by their Japanese captors.[97] The author claims that this included not only ritual cannibalization of the livers of freshly-killed prisoners, but also the cannibalization-for-sustenance of living prisoners over the course of several days, amputating limbs only as needed to keep the meat fresh.08/28/2010 Jane Watch this animal cruelty!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32815SIgq1A&feature=related
we need to put a stop on foie gras farming and slaughter house THEN we can focus on other people's cruelty....as long as we practice it...who are we to say what people can and can't do.
09/03/2010 Deborah Marchant' Why is the mayor of Taiji, Japan currently defending the dolphin hunts? Is it because the community he is a leader of is undereducated? Is it because he is attempting to Save Face as a result of his community Being Made Wrong?? To help us better understand the reasons for the refusal to change, here is one reason why. There is a definite lack of higher education in that remote region of Japan. There is apparently a lack of a high school or university to help educate the people about helpful & better information that many more educated people take for granted. How does great information reach undereducated and prideful people? The same way it has already been done - with respect. Here is another good point to bring up. It is easy to act tough when you lack knowledge, so a main question to ask is "Why should the tough people of Taiji care about saving the lives of Dolphins?" Here is one good reason why. This is a great opportunity for the people of Taiji to receive and accept insightful information that could save their lives and community too." The people of the World who care the most about saving Dolphins care about the People of Taiji too.There is so much help that the people of Taiji could receive and feel grateful for. The next question to ask is "What help does Taiji need to make a new and different living that still gives the people there a purpose and a reason to celebrate?" Education! Education is a major way to create a living for a community. I understand that pearls provide an income there. So how about installing a high school and college that would provide jobs in construction, education, school administration, transportation and more? What about a technical college that teaches great information about how to manage a great pearl business? Creative ideas like these have probably already been thought of by the members of Taiji and their Friends. So Best of Luck Taiji. It is up to You to take hold of this great opportunity to improve your own lives, and the first place to begin though is by being honest with yourselves and each other. DM
09/08/2010 Peter Rogaski The Japanese people need to stop this. Dolphins are one of natures most intelligent creatures and we allow this to take place? We call ourselves civilized? 09/12/2010 Peter Rogaski So called "Chuck" AKA a Japanese citizen from Taiji, makes numerous interesting arguments. In the past, I can appreciate the conditions which existed in Japan after WW II. This argument is completely different today. Just because other food sources of meat are harvested unethically, does not justify the slaughter of dolphins or whales. If I thought all Japanese felt as Chuck does, I would sell my Honda, Toyota, and every other Japanese product in the house. This practice would end immediately, if the large Japanese corporations are determinately affected. Once Japan heads into complete collapse of their export market, then this practice will end. When unemployment reaches 15% because the "world" will not buy from a country whose support such practices --then this will end. 09/12/2010 Chuck Hey.. Like I repeatedly said, if there is farm that can farm dolphins. Would it be OK to make dolphin bacon or dolphin ham for commercial harvest? Answer ME!! I would like your post to start like this;
It’s OK to kill farmed cows, pigs, chickens, ducks, sheep, goats, lamas, ostriches, rabbits, alligators and all others because..
If dolphins can be farmed. It’s OK to…
09/24/2010 kev Juan, I bet your comment gets removed within a few day's just like everyone else who has an opinion that doesn't agree with the Japanese (It makes China look tolerant). Don't think I will ever buy Sony, Panasonic etc. ever again.10/18/2010 Ycp Farming dolphins wouldn't get us anywhere, either. One of O'Barry's points in his fight is informing people of the high intelligence of dolphins. To farm dolphins for harvest would be just as insane if you were to farm orangutans to eat. Most who are behind O'Barry are against the farming of these other beautiful animals as well. There is activism to end those farms as there is activism to end dolphin slaughter.11/11/2010 Chuck Yes. I agree. Farming Orangutans would not be good at all. They take too long to grow and they can throw poo at farmers. That’s just crazy thinking for people working there.. Growing potential poo throwing animals… I would kill one with crowbar if I was farmer and some dumb ape throws poo at me. Plus Orangutans would not give much meat for profit. Maybe their brains would be sold for good money but need to kept live to be serve brain fresh out of skull.. Intelligent creatures = worth argument to live is dumb. O'Barry's group should go to where dogs are being kept to be killed to become food. They even have restaurants to serve dog meat. As far as Orangutans goes, I’m sad to post this but there are farm to grow other small monkeys for their brain to be served fresh out of skull.. Just so you know.. Dog (Darker their skins are better meat) meat and small monkey brains are thought about to be something delightful or pleasing to people.. I guess Dogs and monkeys can wait until O'Barry desire to gets to them for TV rating or his son can dip for TV rating.. 11/15/2010 James Stewart Japanese people are generally ignorant when it comes to nature and the importance of sustaining the oceans marine life. I have just recently watched 'Sharkwater' and would recommend you do the same to get a grasp of the absolute insanity and stupidity of mankind. We have the audacity to call ourselves intelligent beings when we continue to kill the top predator of the oceans. A predator that controls the rest of the Eco-system which we are dangerously putting out of balance with 90% of the worlds sharks killed for their fins. The ocean supplies two thirds of the planet's oxygen and by continuing to allow this cruelty to sharks where they have their find cut off and are left to die an agonizing death over a long time, we are creating the end of the human race!!! Wake up people, stop the arrogance, greed and stupidity and end the killing of sharks today!! Please go to www.savingsharks.com for more information on how you can help.12/29/2010 Chuck I checked out www.savingsharks.com .. OK. now what. As long as you eat meat, you do not have rights to say I'm wrong.01/30/2011 Conscience Veggie Lover I have to agree in some respects with 1 of the posters comments re: farming animals for food..I do agree corralling land animals they way its done in the states for mass consumption is truly as inhumane as hunting down intelligent creatures for slaughter...The root of the problem is MASS consumption.Which is fueled for sure by corporate greed more so than cultural practice.I don't think the comparing the similarities to the atrocities committed against animals worldwide for consumption is a valid argument for continuing the practice of slaughtering Dolphins. To quote the old cliche' 2 wrongs don't make it right...I also have to point out a considerable fact, which is the poisonous nature of the Dolphin flesh, relating to the high mercury content.So if the thought of the inhumanity of the slaughtering of the Dolphins isn't valid, then the inhumanity of the effects of unsuspecting, and unwilling victims of Mercury poison should be...As it relates to the Fisherman's right to slaughtering Dolphins and whales? I do think they have a right to sustain life for their families,comfortably. But there has to be a cost benefit analysis when it comes to any economic practice...I feel seriously repulsed at the idea that this practice poisons Human lives.
03/01/2011 Chuck What do you value now? If it happened to Taiji people.. Would you been happy or do you even care? I guess we would never know because it didn’t happen to them but less dolphin eaters on face of earth is saying. You Win.. What do you feel? 03/21/2011 Dragonstar13 So what I'm seeing is why get upset over dolphins and not the others?
Regarding O'Barry focusing on dolphins, well what do you expect? He trained dolphins and considered himself to be close to them. Why is it that we(Westerners) make a big fuss over dogs and cats being eaten, even though they're not 'intelligent'? Because a lot of us have them as pets and love and care for them. Just as O'Barry did for the dolphins he trained. He's not doing this to make himself look big, he's doing it because he loves dolphins and cared for the ones he trained. When one of them committed suicide, he felt guilty. He even stated that in his interview. I'm going to assume he's also against dogs and cats being eaten, but he wishes to focus on dolphins as a way to help repent what he did. Not because he wants to look like an activist rock star.
There's a lot of things wrong in our world, and it would be impossible to stop them all. Oil drilling, war, harvesting endangered species, carbon footprints, etc. So instead of tackling all problems of the world, O'Barry is tackling the ones that matter the most to him, and the ones who are viewing this are merely responding to the topic. There's plenty of topics about how farm animals are treated, so please don't assume that that topic doesn't matter to anyone here. Or that some how bringing that up will for some reason justify eating dolphin meat. It doesn't. If what the fishermen is doing isn't wrong, then why has there yet to be a good argument for it. The only counter-arguments I heard were, "Well farm animals and other animals are killed too, why not make a fuss about them too?" That's not a good reason, it's just a way to console yourself by bringing others to your level. Like how you feel better when you know the majority of your class got a bad grade, just like you. In which case, yeah maybe we are all bad, so shouldn't we do something about that?
04/11/2011 Chuck Per pound per pound those fisher men make very little money when they kill for meat. Big money maker here is when dolphins are sold to aquariums around the world for much more money. Where do aquariums get their dolphins? They have to buy them from some where right? Do you think there is a magic wand they swing to make dolphins appear from thin air? If all aquariums get banned to buy additional dolphins around the world, how long do you think they can run their dolphin fish tank for? They even said on the show that good looking ones get sold to organizations all over the world and dolphin meats are often sold to consumers labeled as whale meat so there is really good market for dolphin meats in Japan. If those dolphin fisher men know there is not going to be high paying customers, they’ll stop hunting in few years because they have to lie to sell dolphin meat as whale meat now. I know for fact many people would NOT buy dolphin meat knowingly they are buying dolphin meat but if they do not know what whale meat taste like.. They might think dolphin meat as whale meat and they are paying premium price for this meat. Oh and next time when you go to some aquarium wherever in the world, wave to those dolphins because they are kept there with no freedom to escape to ocean where they came from and miles away from home and see them do some tricks for your entertainment to get fed. 04/16/2011 Chris Komatsu Wow, seriously? You guys are a bunch of over-romantic environmentalists who watch waay too many cartoons. Whales and dolphins are not self-aware. They are animals. They do not show despair as humans do (not at all the same as depression); they do not show any sense of being aware they will inevitably die; they do not have the ability to contemplate right and wrong let alone contemplate at all. They can be trained to do tricks and trained to do all sorts of neat stuff but notice that it doesn't occur on their own where as with human beings it does. They simply do those actions by responding to a stimulus. You can train a monkey to do simple mathematic calculations but notice how the monkey isn't able to come up with any of the theorems or concepts that follow from simple calculations on their own. All of you are judging a culture of which you have no knowledge. Being half-Japanese myself, I will reveal to you why the Japanese include so much sea food into their diet. Their entire philosophy is based off of the fact that they see the sea as their source of life. They believe that their primary sustenance, thus, comes from the sea. Because of this, they also have tremendous respect for the ocean and all of its creatures; far more than any westerner or environmentalist whacko does. They do not fear sharks in the water but respect them and thus they do not go fishing and hunting for them just to kill them for the hell of it but they only harvest and take what they need for sustenance to eat unlike here in the west. 04/22/2011 Plant based future Actually, Komatsu Chris, that view died out decades ago amongst scientists. It belongs to the 19th Century.
It is not historically accurate to portray Japan as a fish eating nation. The amount of sea food it currently eats is a modern, post-war artificial high driven by the industry and the government ministry which profits from it. Up until after the WWII it is unlikely that anyone living in the mountains would eat ocean fish more than a few times a year at the most and river fish perhaps one a week. It has only even been a traditional in coastal areas, as it has the world over.
This is a myth which has been constructed since the 1970s. It is not "tradition" to eat Mediterranean tuna and Icelandic or Antarctic whale.
The traditional diet of Japan was primarily vegetarian, near vegan in fact because milk was not drunk until after the Americans came, for 1,000 years by Imperial edicts on the basis of Buddhist rule until the Americans came. Again, right up until the 1970s in the villages most of the women ate mainly vegetarian. People did not like to kill animals. Those who did were more then often untouchables and seen as impure.
Japan's current dietary imbalance and food insecurity is unnaturally created by the consumer industry. It does not need to be so high. It is combination of a number of factors, American influence, brute capitalism, post-war land reforms and the migration away from the countryside.
The issue is not as the propaganda nor as the mindless, immature trolls suggest.
The division of this issue on racial or nationalist grounds is also false. This is not a "Japan versus the West", nor "The West versus Japan" issue. Unfortunately, I think both sides have lost focus of the bigger picture.
The bigger picture is that, despite human population rising and need fed, around 87% of marine stocks are fully exploited or more.* Many species are being pushed to extinction and will never recover. We have no idea what will happen when the marine ecosystems collapses. In Japan, we are facing the collapse of both our fishing industry and our farming industry because of aging, declining stocks, and economic pressures. Perhaps at some point both sides can lift their heads above the conflict and consider the future and an alternative.
Bigots and idiots will never comprehend compassion for other species. They have not evolve that far. They struggle with concept of not causing suffering for other human beings and relish being unconscious at the suffering their lifestyles cause.
It is not necessary to eat meat or fish to survive. It is not necessary to cause suffering to others to survive.
The only future is to return to a primarily plant based diet. Only a primarily plant based can sustain our planet's future population.
* FAO marine stock figures
52% are fully exploited
17% are overexploited
7% are depleted
1% are exploited but recovering12/13/2011 |
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